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Gustav Threatens New Orleans on Third Anniversary of Hurricane Katrina
August 28, 2008
by Ann Turner

Los Angeles, CA - As tropical storm Gustav barrels towards the Gulf coast, the organizers of the New Orleans Southern Decadence gay celebration are watching its every move very carefully. Three years ago, almost to the day, the Southern Decadence festival was cancelled when Hurricane Katrina hit the city full-force, resulting in one of the nation’s most devastating natural disasters. Although Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal has already declared a state of emergency to prepare for a possible Gustav hit, so far Southern Decadence organizers say the celebration is still on track.

Governor Bobby Jindal declared a state of emergency on Wednesday in Louisiana, putting 3,000 National Guard troops on standby as Gustav continued its trek toward the Gulf coast. New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin cut short his stay at the Democratic National Convention in Denver to return to his home city. Emergency shelters are being readied and evacuation plans are ready to be implemented should Gustav continue its path toward New Orleans.

Friday will mark the third anniversary of Hurricane Katrina, which devastated the Gulf Coast in 2005, leaving over 1,800 people dead and displacing tens of thousands of residents. In New Orleans, nearly 80 percent of the city was flooded when almost every levee protecting the city failed. Many of those evacuated from New Orleans, which suffered the greatest damage from the storm, never returned. The culture and demographic makeup of the city was changed forever.

Although Gustav is currently at tropical storm strength, forecasters expect the storm to strengthen to a possible category three or higher hurricane before striking the U.S. coast somewhere between Florida and Texas. Current tracking projects Gustav to make landfall sometime on Tuesday morning.

Officials in Louisiana are preparing to begin evacuations of New Orleans and other threatened locations as early as Friday. A mandatory evacuation of New Orleans will be given 60 hours in advance if the storm is expected to threaten the city.

In 2005, the Southern Decadence gay celebration in New Orleans was officially cancelled due to Hurricane Katrina. Nonetheless, a rag-tag group from the LGBT community staged a parade through the French Quarter in the midst of the hurricane’s destruction. The parade was noted as the first in the city following Katrina’s devastating hit on New Orleans.

Southern Decadence re-launched in 2006 to mass celebration, attracting a near-normal crowd of participants. Southern Decadence 2008’s theme is “Decadence Does Disco”. Although organizers are currently keeping a “watchful eye on Gustav,” there are currently no plans to cancel any of the events. Information on any changes will be posted to the Southern Decadence web site at www.SouthernDecadence.net.


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9/3/2008 4:24 PM
Ted

Kenneth, they requested help before Katrina, and Bush said he would provide it. It's on video. If Bush had told them to pound sand, at least they would have known they were on their own.

There wasn't a FEMA guy in the Superdome for his health, but Brownie was more interested in getting a dinner reservation.

The Mexican Navy and the Canadian Mounties were able to help before the federal government was, and Fidel Castro wasn't far behind. Letting people know they needed help wasn't the problem, it was the response.
9/3/2008 9:10 AM
todd aka st. breesus

kenneth,

that's not exactly the truth concerning katrina and your being disingenuous.

but you can believe whatever you want.
9/2/2008 9:30 AM
Christopher

Matt captured my thoughts exactly. Proves God (if you believe in him) is a Democrat. Sends a storm to remind us how incompetent or uncaring (or both) the current Republican administration is (yes, it's state and local government's responsibility first to take care of its citizens but when it's completely obvious that it's overwhelmed, time for Feds to step in) AND to totally distract America away from the Republican's convention (only to have their message then overshadowed by teen pregnancy and Trooper-gate). Love it!
9/2/2008 8:20 AM
Doug

"I still love chasing tornadoes and I REALLY want to experience a hurricane."
Eh, Wayne, it's not all that- especially when the alcohol and ice run out, lol
9/1/2008 9:13 PM
Wayne

...variables *that go into...
9/1/2008 9:11 PM
Wayne

Well I'm a meteorologist and have had extensive experience with researching and studying the behavior of landfalling tropical cyclones in the Atlantic basin. I know the excitement of trying to predict the path of these storms, and even more daunting, the intensity of such storms.

There are so many crazy variables go into forecasting both and Gustav tapped into many of these variables. Thank goodness for a little wind shear and the western tip of Cuba and just plain good timing, because New Orleans certainly dodged a bullet. Plain and simple.

It's definitely hard when you have a strong interest in severe weather to balance the desire to see the textbook badass cat 5 hurricane or EF-5 tornado with the reality of devastation that such storms would cause. With that said...I still love chasing tornadoes and I REALLY want to experience a hurricane. I could so be one of those idiots out there dodging debris getting blown all over the place.
9/1/2008 8:51 PM
todd aka st. breesus

matt,

yeah, i've taken several courses on meteorology and one specifically on hurricane. on paper, yes the outer walls of a hurricane are not nearly as strong as the ones near the eye but that's about the extent of it. when you've experienced over a dozen of them in your lifetime you throw out the course books because every one is different. some are rain machines with light winds and others are the opposite. they're always different. sometimes they're weak storms but when you go out and check the damage, your amazed how much destruction there is when it's just a cat 1 storm.

growing up, i use to get excited when one was in the gulf because i knew school would be out. and the weaker storms are pretty fun to experience. i can't tell you how many times i've had extended labor day holidays due to storms. the coolest thing about them is when your in the eye. for 15 or so minutes, depending on the size of the eye, the sun comes out, the winds stop completely and it's surreal. but get the hell back inside quickly cause then it all ends and then you get the wind coming from the other direction. very neat.

here's the problem with gustav. it spared new orleans which is good but it creates a level of complacency with the people who live in coastal areas when the next one arrives. the mindset that it will "miss" our town or it won't be that bad happens everytime your spared from the one before. once again, i'll have to argue with my dad to get the fuck out when the next one comes around, which might be next week if the prediction models hold true. i've been guilty of this complacency many times but i finally learned my lesson after hurricane georges in 98.

tropical storm = fun! no work/school!
hurricane = get the fuck out of the way.
9/1/2008 8:26 PM
Matt

Todd I meant to say West, not East. And it did seem to miss the city.

I remember staying up late at night with a friend years ago watching satellite data of emerging hurricanes in the Atlantic (we were huge nerds). We used to root for them to get bigger, because in the vast majority of cases, they'd just make exciting news (constantly breaking new records and all) but cruise through the Atlantic without harming anyone. I guess we had the same kind of obsession that storm chasers have.

I remember rooting for Katrina when it was still a baby tropical storm way out East of Florida. Our opinons on it changed pretty quickly when it came West. I now consider myself, generally, anti-hurricane.

I also took a college course that went over hurricane behavior very in-depth. The visual appearence of a hurricane looming near the coast on sattelite image is impressive - but remember that the actual area of intense winds are directly near the eye of the hurricane. Even though hurricanes pass over, say, Florida, nearly every year, the chances of a particular location there being hit with the brunt of any hurricane are slim enough that it only happens every 100 years or so. To say that a hurricane hit you is to essentially say that the eye hit you, since the outer parts of the storm are much weaker.

That said, an eye can still be up to 20 miles across, and the eyewall covers or so miles, and any given 40-mile area of coast still houses thousands of people even if it's far from a metropolitan area. The news just doesn't focus on a few dozen or even a couple hundred homes being stripped apart the way it focuses on something like Katrina.

All in all, I'd say Gustav was an average bad hurricane to the level at which you'd probably see at least 1 this bad per year, considering its strength and location. It might change if it stalls and produces a considerable amount of inland flooding.
9/1/2008 3:12 PM
Dave

Isn't this storm another attempt by God to destroy Southern Decadence? Coincedence that this Gustav visits the same weekend as Southern Decadence, as did Katrina in 2005? Or perhaps He is trying to destroy the RNC Convention in Minneapolis. Hmmm.
9/1/2008 10:51 AM
todd aka st. breesus

i think nola and the surrounding areas will be fine. the levees just need to hold.
9/1/2008 9:35 AM
James

Matt, bless your heart for your compassion! I know you want to put everyone's mind at ease. I just sent a message to family in SoCal telling them that there hasn't been any breaching of levees as I'm viewing the live stream of the Industrial Canal west side levee overtopping on a NOLA news site.

http://www.wwltv.com/video/?nvid=57429& live=yes

So, I'm feeling you. I'm mostly optimistic, also.

Decreased to a Cat 2 with no stalling off shore and keeping up speed...I only have news reports to learn from as this will be my first hurricane I've sat through now living in Mobile...impression is, that's GOOD,...relatively!

Todd, I hope to God your family is good and able to return to their property left undamaged. I'll remain to defer to your experience as a former New Orleanean. The news keeps touting the scour protection that they added to the Industrial Canal levee. Good?!? Bless you all.
9/1/2008 2:29 AM
todd aka st. breesus

if it goes more east then that's more of a direct hit on the actual city.
9/1/2008 1:00 AM
Jared

correction... they were mistaken, the surges will only be about 4-8'
8/31/2008 11:24 PM
Jared

I agree with you Todd. The levees will be lucky to hold back the water. Thanks for the local website. Just talked with family in Gulf Shores and they are expecting 23' surges.
8/31/2008 9:35 PM
Matt

Slowing down gives it more time to drift to the East though, which pulls it farther from the city.
8/31/2008 8:57 PM
todd aka st. breesus

and the latest update is that the storm is slowing down. the last thing they need is for a storm to stall right off the coast. the continuous dumping of rain will overpower the pump system.

not good.
8/31/2008 8:50 PM
todd aka st. breesus

also the fear from a new orleanian's standpoint isn't the hurricane winds, it's the rain and the storm surge. the pumps of new orleans can only pump out about 1 to 1 1/2 inches of rain an hour. if the pump system can stay on top of the rain and if they can stay on during the storm then flooding will be bad but not deadly. if the levees of the westbank, the ones that haven't been fortified, collapse then your going to see destruction much worse than katrina.

another problem with the levees in the metro area is a political one. some levees are privately funded and some are just publicly funded by us. so you can be floating down a canal and one side will be private and one public. the standards for upkeep and repair are not universal. so you'll have one side of a levee thats made of concrete while on the other side it can be just an earthen wall.
8/31/2008 8:40 PM
todd aka st. breesus

matt,

im from new orleans. i've been watching local new orleans tv off and on all day. trust me, this is not good for the westbank of new orleans. downtown new orleans/french quarter/uptown will be fine because it's on higher land. the concern is for jefferson parish, asscension parish. areas where the levees are not fortified. the damaged areas from katrina (9th ward, new orleans east, and the lakefront) should be ok. well, ok in the sense that it won't be catastrophic.
if it hits the westbank then it's hitting the suburbs of new orleans. if it's hits just west of new orleans around houma/morgan city it's still considered by many people to be the new orleans metro area.
8/31/2008 8:29 PM
Matt

That's not to say the storm won't hit farther East than it is projected to, in which case New Orleans would get hit hard. A 5-degree shift in directon could have the city bearing the brunt of the very strongest winds.

I'm just refering to current projections, which seem to have the hurricane-force wind area barely grazing the city, where they certainly wouldn't be at a category 3 level. Also, on the news reports the experts are saying that the storm surge won't be high enough to top the levees.
8/31/2008 8:25 PM
Matt

Also, remember that the strongest winds are in the northwest quadrant of the EYEWALL, not of the entire storm. Being 50-75 miles away from the eye is going to spare you the brunt of the hurricane no matter where you are in relation to it.
8/31/2008 8:22 PM
Matt

Todd look at this tracking map:

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200807.html#a_topad

Now compare it to this map that shows where the hurricane force winds are, in red:

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200807_wind.html#a_topad

Now remember that New Orleans is not on the tip of that narrow peninsula jutting out of the Mississippi River Delta (most people assume it's there), the city is actually 50 miles north of there up by the lake.

It looks like the red area will barely graze the peninsula, and not envelop the city.

If that is not clear enough look at these computer models showing the path of the hurricane:

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200807_model.html#a_topad

Remeber that the actual diameter of "hurricane force" winds is probably not much bigger than the hurricane icon on that map. The hurricane looks much bigger because cloud cover and tropical-storm force winds extend for hundreds of miles on either side. But if these maps are accurate it appears that the hurricane will not hit the city and certainly not with category 3 force winds.
8/31/2008 8:07 PM
todd aka st. breesus

if anyone is interested in watching local tv news coverage, which is 100X's better than cnn/msnbc, then click on the link below. it's a page that has all the local tv feeds for new orleans. pretty cool

http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/gustav.html
8/31/2008 8:02 PM
todd aka st. breesus

matt,

new orleans will be in the northeast quadrant, the worst area to be for a storm. it's considered the tornado quadrant of a hurricane.

let's just say it's not a fun place to be. if the levees hold up on the westbank of new orleans then they should be fine. the problem with that is the levees on the westbank, which is actually south and west of the mississippi river, were never fortified. they're essentially the same levees they've had for decades.

fingers crossed. my parents are west of new orleans in lafayette. they should be ok.
8/31/2008 7:39 PM
Matt

It looks like this is going to miss New Orleans. If a storm is Category 3 but the eye strikes 50 miles awawy, the winds at the distance that pass over the city are category 1.

But the winds that hit New Orleans during Katrina never exceeded category 2, because the stronger eyewall passed over Mississippi. It will be close, but so far it looks like New Orleans is going to be spared.
8/31/2008 3:58 PM
Jared

I just left Gulf Shores (right before the airport closed) and was in New Orleans a few days ago. With any luck the city will survive with only minor damage and the friends and family in the area weather through the storm.
8/31/2008 1:46 PM
todd aka st. breesus

wayne,

no, it can't take another one like this. it'll probably go back to cat4 before it hits. crazy times i tell ya.
8/31/2008 1:37 PM
Wayne

That's good Todd. The storm is not as strong or as organized as forecast, but all that can be deceiving. Even if it hit at the strength it is now it's still a cat 3 an it's still a major hurricane. I hate that this is happening, but even more than that I hate that those damn the levy system is still not completely repaired after 3 long years. Just have to sit and wait now...New Orleans really can't take another one of these....
8/31/2008 12:29 PM
todd aka st. breesus

my parents, sister, and friends evacuated so i'm cool. they're all above i-10 and that's all that matters cause anything south of that interstate is essentially marshland and low lying areas.

if it hits new orleans then you can kiss that city good bye for good.
8/31/2008 12:00 PM
Stephen

Here's to hoping that history won't repeat itself
8/30/2008 11:22 PM
Storm

An update on the situation with Hurricane Gustav - a worst case scenario for New Orleans is looking more and more likely by the hour. The global weather forecast models are at a consensus that Gustav will intensify to Category 5 status over the Gulf of Mexico tomorrow and then make landfall as a Category 3 or 4 hurricane just southwest of New Orleans on Monday night. When this happens, the upper right quadrant of Gustav, which is the most intense and destructive part of the storm, will pass over the city. The resulting storm surge will likely exceed Hurricane Katrina's, given that over 80% of the barrier islands that protected New Orleans from the south were wiped out by Katrina. The storm surge will also surge into Lake Pontchartrain - this combined with the extremely strong northeasterly hurricane winds will cause the lake to over top the levees. The end result will be the storm surge overwhelming the city from the south and from the east, submerging New Orleans in 10-30 feet of water and effectively rendering it permanently uninhabitable.

That's what happens when you build a city 30 feet below sea level sandwiched in between one of the largest rivers in the world, a massive lake and the ocean on a coastline prone to occasional violent hurricanes...
8/30/2008 9:15 PM
Mark

I KNEW IT!!!! Katrina was Gore’s fault!!!! He sent Katrina to New Orleans to make bush look bad and so he would win a prize with his BS movie on global warming… Now he is sending Gustav there to the area again to mess up the RNC. What a jerk!
Kind of a stupid comment, but everyone blames Katrina on Bush… why can’t I blame it on Gore???
8/30/2008 8:51 PM
Jonathan

OMG, Becky...the storm is TOTALLY coming... * insider's joke *
8/30/2008 5:44 PM
todd aka st. breesus

jj,

thanks man. jindal is marginally better but that's an easy accomplishment when your dealing with politicians in louisiana. he considers himself a creationist. you just can't be that smart of a human being when you tell people the earth is only a few thousand years old.

but yes, he is better than blanco and seems to have a better grasp at running the government.
8/30/2008 5:28 PM
JJ

You don't explain it...Bear Stearns was wrong wrong wrong...just like any gov't handout/bailout!

And Todd, all the best to you and you family, but why do you say that about Jihndal? He is leaps and bound better than Blanco, you have to admit. At least he is trying to fix decades old corruption and do for the people of Louisiana what others have failed to do in the past. I'm not from there, but from what I've seen so far...it's better than the former.
8/30/2008 3:01 PM
Stephen

1) Yes, low income people often suffer the most, but why is it automatically the Federal Gov'ts responsibility to "save" them? Isn't that why we have state and local gov'ts?


Then how do you explain corporate welfare (in the example of Bear Stearns)?
8/30/2008 2:01 PM
todd aka st. breesus

blame fall on all branches of government. no one should be left out, all should be removed from office, including that cock named bush.

you can't ever EVER prepare enough for something as huge as this. it's just not possible.

being born and raised in lafayette, louisiana and living in new orleans for 9 years, i know what the fuck i'm talking about.

nagin - piece of shit. totally got caught off guard.
kathleen babineaux blanco - clueless as for as handling this diseaster.
george bush - serving mcbush cake on his birthday when it made landfall. need i say more?

i'm so worried right now for my family and friends back home. i'm so worried about my beloved new orleans. that place is my heart, it's a part of me. it cannot handle another katrina.

sort of off topic but let me just say that bobby jindal is a complete and utter waste of a human being.
8/30/2008 11:53 AM
JJ

Oh for liberal christ sakes!
1) Yes, low income people often suffer the most, but why is it automatically the Federal Gov'ts responsibility to "save" them? Isn't that why we have state and local gov'ts?

"2) A city government does not have the resources to deal with a disaster of the magnitude of Katrina; it requires federal intervention, just like every other natural disaster in U.S. history required federal intervention. If a cluster of grass fires outside subdivisions in Santa Monica County warrants the deployment of the National Guard and early evacuation with state and federal intervention, then maybe a category 3+ hurricane heading toward a below-sea-level city calls for the same kind of intervention."

Bullshit! That's why you have the National Guard, and state and local disaster relief personnel on hand to tackle these crisis. When those have been exhausted and by the Governor's request for federal assistance will there by a federal presence!

"3) Rising ocean temperatures = more energy for stronger storms."

Ok, global warming fear monger. Hurricanes obtain their energy from warm oceans, yes. The vast majority of them originate off the coast of Africa, breed along the equator and then spin up the Caribbean and into the gulf where atmospheric conditions this time of year are ripe for their development. It is a cycle that has been going on long before you were born "Hussein." Just like tornado alley existed for centuries...the geography and weather patterns that predominated the midsection of the country are ideal for tornadoes, making the midsection of the US the most popular place for them to occur.

"
4) News stories put focus on the fact that poverty and race intersect; African-Americans are still living in poverty in far greater numbers than caucasians."

All the more reason for the Democratic mayor to practice what he preaches and take care of those who cannot (or will not) do for themselves. The media will do anything to politicize these lot of people. The bottom line is it is not the federal governments job to step in before a state and local government has done their job.

Doug and "Hussein" you both fail to place blame on the lowest common denominator in the Katrina disaster. You would rather make Bush and FEMA a scapegoat. That is the real media story! Why weren't Nagan and Blanco held more to account? Yes the federal response was an abortion, but if you are going to fling you blame, start with those two idiots.

And don't give me that crap about cutting funding for the ACOE and the like. The city of New Orleans was built in a bowl, below sea level...not my fault. People have fucked with the flow of the Mississippi for years, adding to the problem of flooding and the viability of the wetlands.
The endemic corruption that exists in New Orleans, the lack of leadership, geography, and the lowest socio economic status per capita in America all contributed to the mess.
It's a weak excuse to blame the feds when the brunt of the responsibility pre-Katrina rested with Nagan and Blanco.
8/30/2008 11:05 AM
Matt

Alright, here's what we "learn" from Hurricane Katrina:

1) Low income people often suffer worst in natural disasters and are last to receive support.

2) A city government does not have the resources to deal with a disaster of the magnitude of Katrina; it requires federal intervention, just like every other natural disaster in U.S. history required federal intervention. If a cluster of grass fires outside subdivisions in Santa Monica County warrants the deployment of the National Guard and early evacuation with state and federal intervention, then maybe a category 3+ hurricane heading toward a below-sea-level city calls for the same kind of intervention.

3) Rising ocean temperatures = more energy for stronger storms.

4) News stories put focus on the fact that poverty and race intersect; African-Americans are still living in poverty in far greater numbers than caucasians.
8/30/2008 10:57 AM
Doug

The Katrina snafu goes higher than those two- I still laugh at the concept of a horse trainer (or whatever the hell "Brownie" was) being appointed the head of FEMA- and GW cutting the budget for the ACOE's plan to improve the levies not once, but twice
8/30/2008 10:33 AM
JJ

Not being rough, just calling a spade a spade (figuratively speaking of course.) Remember Nagan said those things....I just paraphrased them for effect. It is no secret that he failed beyond belief his people and his city with a complete lack of leadership and an ill grasp of the magnitude of the impending storm. Blanco was no different. Situations like this require preparation and due diligence towards the residents and their safety. Nagan is the one who left his people, many of whom had no means of transportation, stranded. States have disaster preparedness plans and theirs during Katrina was poorly executed!
The problem with Americans today is they can't handle and don't want to hear the cold hard truth. This is no different. Maybe they should take a lesson from the Texas playbook on how to revamp and improve upon existing plans to better minimize human tragedy and increase public awareness and safety. All that said...Nagan is still an idiot. His political affiliation and color have nothing to do with it. Just like Blanco, her idiocy caused her the election and the people spoke. Hopefully, the city has planned accordingly and the damage, if any will be minimal. Those who fail to learn from history are destined to repeat it...lets hope this isn't the case and the New Orleans, or wherever it strikes prevails.
8/30/2008 7:34 AM
Doug

"Oh and we can't leave out Mr. Chocolate himself....mista Nagan. What a buffoon! Whose he going to blame his incompetencies on this time??? Somebody ought to go down there and hold his hand and show him how best to prepare his chocolate city for a category 3/4 hurricane."
Wow, JJ- I know you are frustrated, but geez, that was a little rough, don't you think?
All friendly ribbing aside, I honestly hope those of you within that cone of error are safe, and that you guys make it through unscathed- I know Ft Lauderdale (especially downtown, where I live) was a MESS after Wilma- I wouldn't honestly wish that on ANYONE
8/30/2008 2:33 AM
Matt

lol yeZ, thank god for bobbi jindal, hurrikanes and othr natural disasters R furst and foremost chanses to splain your konservativ views. Nuthing lyke people dying due to naturel kazes az a chans to bash democrats!

The interesting thing about is that Evangelical group Focus on the Family posted Online videos praying for pouring rain to begin 2 minutes before Barack Obama's acceptance speech in Denver, intense enough to cause "small stream flood advisories" and cancel the speech. The specific timing would prove it wasn't a coincidence and indicate that God favors the anti-gay anti-abortion views of Republicans.

Looks like God likes Obama just fine because the day of the speech was a clear and beautiful day, but this knocker budded up in the Atlantic that same week and is set to hit the coast THE DAY OF PRESIDENT BUSH'S GOP CONVENTION SPEECH.

If the GOP wants God to reveal his bias in the election, they should be careful what they wish for, because the party of the pharisees and the sadducees might be surprised to find less favor than they hoped.
8/29/2008 10:28 PM
JJ

Thank God for the leadership of Gov Jihndal. At least he won't fuck up the preparation and evacuation and aftermath like the idiot Blanco did. Oh and we can't leave out Mr. Chocolate himself....mista Nagan. What a buffoon! Whose he going to blame his incompetencies on this time??? Somebody ought to go down there and hold his hand and show him how best to prepare his chocolate city for a category 3/4 hurricane.
8/29/2008 5:13 PM
Cory

woW. -_-
8/29/2008 9:27 AM
Doug

I don't know about "nice", I did lose my temper just slightly (hence my last comment directed to the reject from the Hitler Youth). I fell the same of anyone that thinks that only white males can be president
8/29/2008 9:21 AM
Jack

Doug, okay but I don't know how eating yogart is going to help but, for those lonely nights I'll try anything.... (Yes, I'm one funny mother fucker, I also am not at work today) I enjoyed you and Erik/adolph/boytoy/who the fuck knows lst night. He just doesn't get it! You and doug did me proud, sons, you guys explained in a much nicer way than I would have that he is an asshole.
8/29/2008 9:12 AM
Doug

Lol, Jack, try yoga
8/29/2008 7:16 AM
Jack

Stephen and Doug, Damnyou guys sure are flexable. I tried all night to twist my body so I could smell my balls but I couldn't, how do you guys do that? LMAO. (Funny one Jack). Lol
8/28/2008 5:49 PM
Doug

"*sniffs genitals*

No taco scent here, looks like I missed out being mixed 'n all "
Lol,
Just sniffed myself, no tacos, either- just a little Givenchy Pour Homme- the red bottle
8/28/2008 5:45 PM
Doug

Jake, is your real name "Hennifer Lopes", do you like tacos and burritos?
8/28/2008 4:51 PM
Stephen

*sniffs genitals*

No taco scent here, looks like I missed out being mixed 'n all
8/28/2008 4:48 PM
todd aka st. breesus

jake,

like tacos!! i like your way of thinking. where can i sign up for your newsletter.
8/28/2008 4:28 PM
Jack

Jake, I am on the train going home, read your comment and laughed with water in my mouth I laughed so hard the water came out of my nose. Very, very funny. Thanks
8/28/2008 4:20 PM
Jake

DOUG: "Mexican's aren't any more or any less "hot" than anyone else in the world, Jake"

And just who da funk do you stink you are telling me what my personal tastes are? I happen to love thick latino meat that smells like tacos. Got a prob with that????
8/28/2008 4:08 PM
Jack

Stephen, I got exactly what I expect "hot" thoughts and memories. Lmao. Long live Gustav! And I can't for get the hair tips, thank you for them. Lol lol
8/28/2008 3:46 PM
Stephen

"Leave it to a gay thread to go from a destructive hurricane to hot sweaty, sexy, thick muscled latin men"

What else were you expecting?
8/28/2008 2:40 PM
Doug

There's always my personal favorite, "You know, you only work in a shop, you can can the attitude"
8/28/2008 2:38 PM
todd aka st. breesus

doug,

i got that one too!!!!!
8/28/2008 2:34 PM
Doug

"But, is it art?"
8/28/2008 2:23 PM
Jack

Todd, and we love him for them!!
8/28/2008 2:21 PM
todd aka st. breesus

ahhh doug,

a day isn't a day until doug throws in an abfab comment.

xo
8/28/2008 2:16 PM
Doug

Dirty, dirty, dirty, disgusting, revolting, DEVIL CHILDREN!
(Just kidding, boys )
8/28/2008 2:12 PM
Jack

Leave it to a gay thread to go from a destructive hurricane to hot sweaty, sexy, thick muscled latin men, (oops I got a little carried away) LMAO.
8/28/2008 2:01 PM
Doug

"GUSTAV, GO TO MEXICO."
Or, just downgrade to a weak tropical depression and park over Lake Okechobee, we need the water
(Frankly, we need to curb the developers, too)
8/28/2008 1:58 PM
Doug

"No way dude. Mexicans are hot and they work hard."
Mexican's aren't any more or any less "hot" than anyone else in the world, Jake
At least I was for a more "surgical" landfall
8/28/2008 1:58 PM
todd aka st. breesus

jake,

LOL. louisiana and new orleans is NOT part of the bible belt....well north louisiana could be considered bible belt but we don't consider that part of louisiana.

i love my latino men too but my family and friends are down there, so...
GUSTAV, GO TO MEXICO.
8/28/2008 1:50 PM
Jake

STEPHEN: "Thankfully the atmosphere is so thick with pollution Mexico will be spared"

No it's not that. God's just trying to get rid of the bible belt.

VIVA LA MEXICO!
8/28/2008 1:45 PM
Stephen

"No way dude. Mexicans are hot and they work hard."

Thankfully the atmosphere is so thick with pollution Mexico will be spared

...at least, following my [flawed] logic
8/28/2008 1:43 PM
Jake

TODD: "please go towards mexico, PLEASE!!!!"

No way dude. Mexicans are hot and they work hard.
8/28/2008 1:43 PM
Doug

Besides, even if I was a weather kinetic, I would have made the storm burn itself out in the middle of the ocean, just so we could have a nice beach day
8/28/2008 1:42 PM
Jake

AUSTIN: "What's worse is McCain threatens all of the United States... not just the gulf."

What's even worse is this post I just quoted you on.
8/28/2008 1:42 PM
Jake

This is where the Southern priests will chime in "Gustav is sent from God to destroy the wickedness of Decadance, a celebration this weekend for the sinners who choose to be fags!" Meanwhile, just like Katrina did, Gustav will tear through New Orleans, but spare the gay section. Sounds to me like Gods trying to wipe out the breeders. Again. Good god.
8/28/2008 1:39 PM
Doug

Lol, according to that once contestant from "Shear Genius", all you need for your hair to stand up to bad weather is a good base tease, lol
8/28/2008 1:36 PM
Stephen

In a vain attempt to protect their hair from possible frizz, the combined force of several thousand aerosol cans added to the furry of Katrina...hence the blame
8/28/2008 1:31 PM
Doug

I still laugh when those Evangelicals tried to blame Katrina on gays- as if we had that much power.
Besides, you know how some of us are, if the slightest drop of rain hits our head, we freak out that our hair will get mussed
8/28/2008 1:30 PM
Doug

"love of god and nation"
Oh please, hearing it from S.O. David is hard enough to stomach, don't you start, too, lol
8/28/2008 1:20 PM
Stephen

Doug,

If politics have taught you anything, it should be that gays don't build...they destroy--you know, family values, love of god and nation, etc...

Tra la la *skips gayly into distance*
8/28/2008 1:17 PM
Doug

"they are the dumbest government workers on the planet. monkeys could run the corps better than these idiots."
Lol, I don't have a degree in either engineering or architecture, but I think I could run it better
But, that would mean that the Army would have to hire an out homosexual
8/28/2008 1:15 PM
Doug

"Those who don't study history are destined to have it repeated."
One of my favorite mottos, it's right up there with the one part of Clinton's speach last night
8/28/2008 1:14 PM
todd aka st. breesus

stephen,

im from new orleans. i used to work for a private company and we did alot of work with the corps of engineers. they are the dumbest government workers on the planet. monkeys could run the corps better than these idiots.
8/28/2008 1:13 PM
Austin

What's worse is McCain threatens all of the United States... not just the gulf.
8/28/2008 1:13 PM
Stephen

"please go towards mexico, PLEASE!!!!"

"Well, as long as it focuses on Javier- leave the rest of Mexico alone "

LOL, classic
8/28/2008 1:11 PM
Stephen

Cliche:

Those who don't study history are destined to have it repeated.
8/28/2008 1:10 PM
Stephen

What's worse is that the Army Core of Engineers made the SAME F**KING mistake, building insufficient levies...

What the hell?
8/28/2008 1:09 PM
Doug

Well, if a certain Republican president didn't cut the budget for the ACOE twice before Katrina, they could have implimented their original refurbishment plan- mind you, it wouldn't have been complete when Katrina hit, but it could have minimized the damage
8/28/2008 1:06 PM
Doug

Lol, don't knock a good "Hurricane Party", Jonathan, lol
Actually, all kidding aside, I seriously hope that the damage is minimal once it makes landfall- I wouldn't wish catastrophe on anyone, not even my adversaries
8/28/2008 1:06 PM
todd aka st. breesus

jonathon,

good point. to hell with southern decadence, get out!!!!
8/28/2008 1:02 PM
Jonathan

I'm sorry New orleans people, but you need to evacuate...NOW! Loook what happened after Katrina for god's sake. Don't be foolish...is a festival worth your life?
8/28/2008 12:57 PM
Doug

Well, as long as it focuses on Javier- leave the rest of Mexico alone
8/28/2008 12:48 PM
todd aka st. breesus

please go towards mexico, PLEASE!!!!

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